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Okay i am in a MP game and if i form S.P then can i form italy as that nation also?

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If you're Latin group culture you can.

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Okay thanks Can you form Italy as Sardinia-Piedmont? (72)

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HardAndymon said:

Okay i am in a MP game and if i form S.P then can i form italy as that nation also?

Well since it historically did i sure hope so ;D

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Yes you can; I found it very satisfying to do so, going from the glorious baby-blue of Sardinia-Piedmont to the cool green of Italy.

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HardAndymon said:

Okay i am in a MP game and if i form S.P then can i form italy as that nation also?

Of course!

Hakuromatsu said:

Savoy → S-P → Italy → HRE is a glorious tag-switching chain.

Yessssssss

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Hakuromatsu said:

Savoy → S-P → Italy → HRE is a glorious tag-switching chain.

So is Poland >PLC > Prussia > Germany

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MathewPerth said:

So is Poland >PLC > Prussia > Germany

Someone should try Savoy > Sardinia-Piedmont > Italy > Russia > Prussia > Germany > France > HRE; would be an interesting game to say the least

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V1ribus said:

Someone should try Savoy > Sardinia-Piedmont > Italy > Russia > Prussia > Germany > France > HRE; would be an interesting game to say the least

Problem here, if you form a cultural union you can no longer form any new nations...

So your chain stops at Savoy-> Sardinia Piedmont-> Italy, because Italy is a cultural union.

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Problem here, if you form a cultural union you can no longer form any new nations...

Care to provide a source for that?
Off the top of my head the only requisites to forming another nation are those listed in the decision criteria.

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Problem here, if you form a cultural union you can no longer form any new nations...

So your chain stops at Savoy-> Sardinia Piedmont-> Italy, because Italy is a cultural union.

What about Italy -> HRE -> Russia? I don't think that HRE is a cultural union

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The HRE and the Papacy can't form anything, but other than that I don't think there are any restrictions. I think Italy can form Russia?

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What about Italy -> HRE -> Russia? I don't think that HRE is a cultural union

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The HRE and the Papacy can't form anything, but other than that I don't think there are any restrictions. I think Italy can form Russia?

Wait, duh, it definitely can't. That's right.

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The decision to form a nation doesn't prohibit any tags specifically IIRC except for the HRE and The Papal States, its just that culture unions are not allowed to culture shift to outside their culture group.

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The decision to form a nation doesn't prohibit any tags specifically IIRC except for the HRE and The Papal States, its just that culture unions are not allowed to culture shift to outside their culture group.

Which effectively makes it impossible for you to form other cultural union tags.

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So is Poland >PLC > Prussia > Germany

Doing Poland > PLC > Prussia > HRE, currently.

At the PLC stage, but have revoked privileges and all the HRE are my vassals.
Just considering when the opportune time to switch tag would be.

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Why would you want to switch out of the awesome S-P color into the crap Italy color though???

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brifbates said:

Why would you want to switch out of the awesome S-P color into the crap Italy color though???

S-P's cool baby blue is the equivalent of like... -22% core cost. Not quite -25%. But that's more than I can say for most colors in the game!

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Is Sardinia-Piedmont in Italy? ›

Sardinia, kingdom of the house of Savoy from 1720, which was centred on the lands of Piedmont (in northwestern Italy) and Sardinia.

How did Piedmont-Sardinia unify Italy? ›

After striking an alliance with Napoleon III's France, Piedmont-Sardinia provoked Austria to declare war in 1859, thus launching the conflict that served to unify the northern Italian states together against their common enemy: the Austrian Army.

Who ruled Sardinia-Piedmont before unification of Italy? ›

Unification had to be based on a strong monarchy, and in practice that meant reliance on Piedmont (the Kingdom of Sardinia) under King Victor Emmanuel II (1820–1878) of the House of Savoy. Camillo Benso, Count of Cavour (1810–1861) provided critical leadership.

What was the Treaty of Sardinia-Piedmont? ›

The Treaty of Turin (Italian: Trattato di Torino; French: Traité de Turin) concluded between France and Piedmont-Sardinia on 24 March 1860 is the instrument by which the Duchy of Savoy and the County of Nice were annexed to France, ending the centuries-old Italian domination of the region. French annexation in 1860.

Does Sardinia count as Italy? ›

It is one of the five Italian regions with some degree of domestic autonomy being granted by a special statute.

When did Sardinia become Italy? ›

In 1861, Sardinia became part of the united Italy, which the Italian national hero Garibaldi helped to create (his tomb on the Sardinian island of Caprera is a national shrine).

How was Italy formed? ›

Summary. The formation of the modern Italian state began in 1861 with the unification of most of the peninsula under the House of Savoy (Piedmont-Sardinia) into the Kingdom of Italy. Italy incorporated Venetia and the former Papal States (including Rome) by 1871 following the Franco-Prussian War (1870-71).

Why was Italy Divided? ›

In the early Middle Ages Italy was divided and distributed fragmented by the transient dominance of medieval European conquerors from the east (Byzantines), from the south (Muslims) and from the north (the Germans and Normans).

Why did Rome take Sardinia? ›

When the Carthaginians regained control over the mercenaries in North-Africa in Sardinia they invited the Romans to occupy the island peacefully in 238 BC 1. The Romans obtained an island with a fairly developed urban culture, at least on the coastal strips, and an infrastructure they could build on.

Who owns Sardinia? ›

Sardinia belongs to Italy because the Absburg sold it to the Savoy dinasty that later became kings of Italy. Corsica belongs to France because Genoa, after a revolt of the Corsicans, was obbliged to sell the tumultuous isle to the king of France.

Who was the last King of Piedmont-Sardinia? ›

Victor Emmanuel II (Italian: Vittorio Emanuele II; full name: Vittorio Emanuele Maria Alberto Eugenio Ferdinando Tommaso di Savoia; 14 March 1820 – 9 January 1878) was King of Sardinia (also known as Piedmont-Sardinia) from 23 March 1849 until 17 March 1861, when he assumed the title of King of Italy and became the ...

Who was the King of Sardinia Piedmont in 1836? ›

Charles Albert (born Oct. 2, 1798, Turin, Piedmont, French Republic—died July 28, 1849, Oporto, Port.) was the king of Sardinia–Piedmont (1831–49) during the turbulent period of the Risorgimento, the movement for the unification of Italy.

Is Sardinia-Piedmont part of Italy? ›

The Savoy-led Kingdom of Piedmont-Sardinia was thus the legal predecessor of the Kingdom of Italy, which in turn is the predecessor of the present-day Italian Republic.

Who was the ruler of Sardinia-Piedmont? ›

Victor Emmanuel II was the ruler of Sardinia-Piedmont who later became the king of Italy.

How did Italy get unified? ›

When did Italy become its own country? Italy became a unified country in 1861. It happened after Sardinia-Piedmont and France defeated Austria in the Second War of Italian Independence. Two smaller Italian regions were added to the unified Italy in 1866 and 1870.

Which region of Italy is Sardinia in? ›

Sardinia, island and regione (region) of Italy, second in size only to Sicily among the islands of the western Mediterranean. It lies 120 miles (200 km) west of the mainland of Italy, 7.5 miles (12 km) south of the neighbouring French island of Corsica, and 120 miles (200 km) north of the coast of Africa.

What happened to Piedmont-Sardinia? ›

The Kingdom of Piedmont-Sardinia after Italian unification became the Kingdom of Italy. The first Capital was Torino (Turin), the second was Firenze (Florence) and later on, when Rome was added to the new State, it was moved to Rome.

How different is Sardinian from Italian? ›

Sardinian cannot be said to be closely related to any dialect of mainland Italy; it is an archaic Romance tongue with its own distinctive characteristics, which can be seen in its rather unique vocabulary as well as its morphology and syntax, which differ radically from those of the Italian dialects.

What is Piedmont in Italy famous for? ›

Piedmont is a veritable Epicurean paradise. Home of the renowned white truffle, and its namesake annual festival, it's also a land rich in dried fruits like walnuts, chestnuts and hazelnuts, homemade cheeses, soft delicate veal, and all the fresh veggies for which Italy is known.

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